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Recap and discussion of 4 x 2 – What Ever happened to Mr. Garibaldi?

I have to admit that this episode, particularly the Lorien bits, rather annoyed me this time around. To paraphrase a judge on Boston Legal, there was just too much jibber jabber. Lorien tends to drone on and on, I’m afraid, and says so many things that make little sense that I completely ignored most of it.

We open with Franklin saying 9 days since Z’ha’dum. He says lots of the League worlds have left B5 and gone home to wait for the other shoe to drop, for the war to resume in earnest.

Lennier tells Franklin that he worries for Delenn.

John is dreaming - ‘Who are you?’, ‘What do you want?’ He tells Lorien he was dreaming of escape since it is his obligation to escape. Lorien says words have power. Which came first, thought or word? (See what I mean?)

Lorien tells him he is dead, suspended in time between the tic and the toc.

‘Here between moments, we have all the time in the world.’

Meanwhile, G’kar walks into a bar, searching for Mr. Garibaldi. He asks a man about a piece of a Starfury with the same serial number as Mr. Garibaldi’s. The man doesn’t want to talk to him. Marcus shows up just as a fight is imminent and when they leave, the bar owner has them followed and tells a Centauri that he might have something for him.

Franklin tells Delenn as a part human, she cannot fast as she did in the past. It will harm her. She says John’s death is her fault and that she will fast and die and join him in a place where no shadows fall.

Marcus and G’kar figure out that someone is after G’kar. Marcus asks why he is hunting Mr. Garibaldi. G’kar answers that he never before had a non-Narn friend. Marcus says he never had a friend who was a narn and damn few friends at all. G’kar takes a look at Marcus’ pike, likes it.

Two Centauri are showing the bar owner a photo array of wanted Narns and he identifies G’kar.

Stephen finds a data crystal for Delenn in John’s effects. He takes it to her. She plays it. John tells her loves her and he has to see things through.

Marcus finally does find out that the piece was found on a tip from IPX. G’kar tells him to go back to B5 to find Montagne while he will check out the ship. The Centauri come for G’kar and take him after a fight.

Delenn calls the Rangers together and tells them they will attack Z’ha’dum in 7 days. She says theuir chances are small but their chances are zero if they do nothing at all.

Emperor Cartagia sends for Londo in the middle of the night. When he does show up, Cartagia bitches about him being late but decides to forgive him anyway since Londo does mention that he uis ;late because he knew he must dress properly for the emperor. He gifts Londo with G’kar. Londo thanks him. G’kar asks if they know where Mr. Garibaldi might be.
Finally we see Michael. He is beating the walls. He’s being interrogated by a voice and says he doesn’t know the answer. He’s gassed then a man walks in.

Londo visits G’kar’s cell. He tells him he was very foolish to leave B5, where he was granted sanctuary. He tells G’kar they will torture and kill him and that he does not wish that on anyone, even G’Kar. He tells G’kar that Cartagia is a monster and he wants his help in removing him. G’kar says he will do so only with Londo’s promise to see the Narn free. G’kar agrees.

Lorien says he was not ONE of the first ones, but he was THE first one. He tells John he is the first to make it that far, maybe he can make it out. He tells John he must surrender to toc (die). He must stop running from death and simply be. ‘Do you have something worth living for?’

John thinks of Delenn.

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Quotes:

Lorien: It's easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?

Lorien: Words have meaning. And Names have power. The universe began with a word, you know. But which came first? The word or the thought behind the word?

G'Kar: If you're going to be worried every time the universe doesn't make sense you'll be worried every moment of every day for the rest of your natural life.
Marcus Cole: Your point being?

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Questions:
1. Did you actually understand what Lorien said? Are you sure *grin*?
2. Did PsiCorp take Mr. Garibaldi?
3. Were you surprised at the deal between Londo and G’kar?
4. Why is Susan so broke up that she has Stephen clean out John’s things?
5. So did John free himself when he chose to die? Or did he choose to live?

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Sources:
The Lurker’s Guide to Babylon 5: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/guide/068.html
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517723/trivia?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu
The Babylon Project: http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Whatever_Happened_to_Mr._Garibaldi%3F
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whatever_Happened_to_Mr._Garibaldi%3F
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Recap and Discussion for 4 x 1 – The Hour of the Wolf

A new season with answers and questions and much more. This episode has enough stuff for 3 eps yet it’s all there and all done well.
We see the newer and wiser Citizen G’kar, the Londo we actual learn to love and one crazy ass bastard in this episode.

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Seven days after Z’ha’dum and G’kar says Ivanova seems lost. Londo has returned home. Delenn sits and prays and meditates…

He also says change is coming and two questions must be answered: 1. Where is Garibaldi. And 2. What happened to Sheridan at Z’ha’dum?

The episode begins at 5:30 am with Ivanova’s alarm - giving her messages and reminders while she sits, having not slept at all. Later we see her arguing with an alien before Delenn reminds them that they owe Sheridan for saving them. G’kar reminds them that the war is not over but in the end, they say since Sheridan is gone, they must attend to their own and begin leaving B5.

We join Londo on Centauri Prime, where he speaks to the odd little minister. He says he’s met Cartagia twice, once when he was a drooling baby and the second time when he was a teen looking up dresses. He remarks that he expects not much has changed.

He meets him. Cartagia has short hair, which Londo doesn’t like. The emperor tells Londo that he called him home for 2 reasons: 1. Londo has experience and sees the ‘big picture’. 2. Londo was requested.

Back on B5, Vir meets with Ivanova and tells her that Sheridan was taken to an underground city on Z’ha’dum and that his White Star crashed into the city with 2 500 megaton nukes which exploded and made a 2 mile chasm. Sheridan must be dead and must have taken many of the shadows with him. Perhaps even Morden.

Back on Centauri Prime, Londo goes into his quarters to find a burned and blistered Morden waiting for him. Morden tells him that he will soon be recovered. Morden makes some bad puns about ashes and shadows then tells Londo that he is the person who requested Londo be here. He tells Londo that they have had to seek outside assistance sooner than they hoped because of what Sheridan did. Cartagia will loan them a piece of Centauri Prime.

Londo says the emperor is mad… Morden reminds him that he and Refa put the emperor in place. He tells Londo he will be their liaison to the royal court. When Londo tries to refuse, Morden says he will do it because he is drawn to power and because he fears what others might do in his place.

Delenn tries to talk to the Vorlon but he refuses to do anything at all. He says Sheridan opened an unexpected door but will not elaborate. Delenn is angry and tells him that she no longer respects the Vorlons and the not Kosh tells her that is not relevant.

Zack is checking out Garibaldi’s quarters when he finds someone there… he think its Garibaldi at first but it’s G’kar wearing G.’s hat. G’kar says he fears that garibaldi has been forgotten in all the other happenings. G’kar asks if Daffy is one of G.’s household gods. Zack says he’s kinda like the Egyptian god of frustration – they laugh. Zack says hwat he thnks doesn’t matter and G’kar says our thoughts form the universe, they always matter. G’kar says he will search for Michael.

Londo is hunting his coat as the little minister comes in and tells him Cartagia has something to show him – a glorious day. Londo follows out into the sand garden where he sees hundreds (perhaps thousands) of shadow ships coming over, exactly as they were in his dream (vision). Cartagis has given them Selini in exchange for making him a god. When Londo challenges the sacrifice of the Centauri people, Cartagia tells him that no sacrifice is too great in order for him to become a deity.

Londo realizes how truly insane the emperor is as he backs toward the doors. Once outside, he mentions to the little minister that Cartagia mad and the minister shushes him, telling him that those who end up disappearing and there is a rumor that Cartagia keeps their heads on his desk and talks to them late at night.

Ulkesh won‘t tell Lyta what they plan but she senses something dark in him.

Londo calls Vir at b5 and tells him to come right away. He asks if something is wrong and Londo says everything is wrong. “Conspiracies require more than one person and I trust no one here.”

Cartagia goes into a dark room and he begins to talk to a line of heads on his desk.

Lyta visits Susan and she tells Lyta of the Hour of the Wolf, between 3 and 4 in the morning all you can see are problems and trouble. She says she’s been in the hour of the wolf for 7 days now. The vodka she’s drinking isn’t helping either.

Lyta asks her of she’s gotten anyone to agree to go to Z’ha’dum. She says she can block some of the shadows to keep them from finding out they’re there and she thinks she can find him with her link to Kosh. They get Delenn and off they go. They find nothing and would have been drawn down to the planet except that Lennier had programmed a failsafe into the White Star that would head home if he didn’t touch the controls for a certain amount of time.

Under Z’ha’dum, we see someone walking with a hood over his head.

Vir arrives home. Londo is hunting listening devices. After he removes one, he tells Vir that Cartagia is nuts and has invited the shadows here in exchange for godhood. He tells Vir they must stop the emperor, no matter the cost. “I need a friend and a patriot and you are both.” He says they must kill Cartagia.

It’s 5:30 am again in Ivanova’s quarters. She says Sheridan is dead and they must finish the work he began.

John Sheridan is sitting by a fire. A being walks in – each of them ask “Who are You?” Thy eshare the fire.

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Quotes:
Londo to Vir: Vir, it is a terrible truth but as one accumulates power, one loses friends. One only has those who wish to use you and those you wish to use. And yet, in all of this, you have somehow managed to walk through the corridors of power and not be touched. I can only assume you have not been paying attention. And still, the hideous truth is: you are the closest thing I have to a friend. I'm as shocked and dismayed by this as you are, but there it is.

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Questions:
1. So many things… what was your favorite part? Mine was when Londo realizes just how batshit crazy the emperor truly is.
2. Is John really on Z’ha’dum? (I might ask this one again next week too.)
3. Morden?
4. Was there too much in this episode?

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Sources:
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517705/
Lurker’s Guide to Babylon 5: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/guide/067.html
The Babylon Project: http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hour_of_the_Wolf
Wikiquote: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Babylon_5#The_Hour_of_the_Wolf
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hour_of_the_Wolf
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Here is the schedule for the next season.

Season Four
("No Surrender, No Retreat")
04/10/17 1 - The Hour of the Wolf - [livejournal.com profile] alexcat
04/17/17 2 - Whatever Happened to Mr. Garibaldi? - [livejournal.com profile] alexcat
04/24/17 3 - The Summoning - [livejournal.com profile] vjs2259
05/01/17 4 - Falling Toward Apotheosis - [livejournal.com profile] vjs2259
05/08/17 5 - The Long Night
05/15/17 6 - Into the Fire
05/22/17 7 - Epiphanies
05/29/17 8 - The Illusion of Truth
06/05/17 9 - Atonement - [livejournal.com profile] vjs2259
06/12/17 10 - Racing Mars - [livejournal.com profile] alexcat
06/19/17 11 - Lines of Communication
06/26/17 12 - Conflicts of Interest
We will take July 3 off for the 4th of July Holiday.
07/10/17 13 - Rumors, Bargains and Lies - [livejournal.com profile] vjs2259
07/17/17 14 - Moments of Transition - [livejournal.com profile] vjs2259
07/24/17 15 - No Surrender, No Retreat
07/31/17 16 - The Exercise of Vital Powers
08/07/17 17 - The Face of the Enemy
08/14/17 18 - Intersections in Real Time - [livejournal.com profile] alexcat
08/21/17 19 - Between the Darkness and the Light
08/28/17 20 - Endgame
09/04/17 21 - Rising Star
09/11/17 22 - The Deconstruction of Falling Stars - [livejournal.com profile] alexcat
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This is the discussion post for the episode 4X22, "Deconstruction of Falling Stars". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
The last human on Earth watches recordings about the Interstellar Alliance.

We say goodbye to the fourth season with a season finale that was written and produced last minute when the show was suddenly un-cancelled. Is it pretentious or brilliant? You decide! ;)

Extra reading:
The article for "Deconstruction of Falling Stars" at The Lurker's Guide.
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This is the discussion post for the episode 4X21, "Rising Stars". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Sheridan & co deal with the aftermath of the civil war. The Interstellar Alliance is formed.

Question of the day - and probably of the next 20+ weeks as well - should JMS have just called it quits and ended the show here?

Extra reading:
The article for "Rising Stars" at The Lurker's Guide.
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My sincerest apologies for missing last week - I haven't been online for over a week because of a flu and this completely slipped my mind.

This is the discussion post for the episode 4X20, "Endgame". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Sheridan leads the final strike against Clark.

So... Marcus and Ivanova... Were you surprised? Shocked? Disappointed? Or just completely spoiled like I was.

Extra reading:
The article for "Endgame" at The Lurker's Guide.
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Sorry for the lateness of this.

This is the discussion post for the episode 4X19, "Between the Darkness and the Light". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Ivanova continues to lead the fleet against Clark's forces while Franklin, Lyta and Garibaldi set out to rescue Sheridan.

Extra reading:
The article for "Between the Darkness and the Light" at The Lurker's Guide.
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This is the discussion post for the episode 4X18, "Intersections in Real Time". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Sheridan is interrogated by Clark's men.

Forty-five minutes of pure brilliance or nothing but pseudo-intellectual rubbish? You decide! ;)

Extra reading:
The article for "Intersections in Real Time" at The Lurker's Guide.
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This is the discussion post for the episode 4X17, "The Face of the Enemy". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Garibaldi leads Sheridan to a trap, using his family as a bait.

Extra reading:
The article for "The Face of the Enemy" at The Lurker's Guide.
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This is the discussion post for the episode 4X16, "The Excercise of Vital Powers". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Garibaldi meets with William Edgars and Franklin asks Lyta's help in communicating with the frozen telepaths.

Extra reading:
The article for "The Excercise of Vital Powers" at The Lurker's Guide.
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This is the discussion post for the episode 4X15, "No Surrender, No Retreat". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Sheridan leads an attack force to liberate Proxima 3.

Extra reading:
The article for "No Surrender, No Retreat" at The Lurker's Guide.
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This is the discussion post for the episode 4X14, "Moments of Transition". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
The Warrior Caste demands Delenn's surrender. Meanwhile on B5 Bester approaches the increasingly desperate Lyta.

Extra reading:
The article for "Moments of Transition" at The Lurker's Guide.

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