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Ruuger ([personal profile] ruuger) wrote in [community profile] b5_revisited2009-08-17 12:24 am

"The Coming of Shadows" discussion

This is the discussion post for the episode 2X09, "The Coming of Shadows". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
The Centauri emperor visits Babylon 5.

Extra reading:
The article for "The Coming of Shadows" at Lurker's Guide.

Re: Regarding Vir's choice to abet Londo -

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2009-08-23 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say Vir isn't buying into the Back-to-the-Stars-War being a good thing for one moment while Zack does believe Night Watch is harmless and patriotic until rather late in the game, but which of them that makes more or less complicit I couldn't say.

Speaking of Zack, though, reminds me of that scene between Vir and Garibaldi in "No Surrender, No Retreat", when they briefly talk about Garibaldi's fallout with Sheridan and decision to leave B5, and Vir says "I don't always like the way Londo is doing things - well, me and most of the universe" but that he decided to stay with Londo nonetheless, and suggests Garibaldi should do the same with Sheridan. Leaving aside Garibaldi's mind-manipulated status as irrevelant right now, this equates, on Vir's part, s4 Sheridan with s2 Londo, which is... interesting.

Re: Regarding Vir's choice to abet Londo -

[identity profile] vjs2259.livejournal.com 2009-08-23 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"this equates, on Vir's part, s4 Sheridan with s2 Londo, which is... interesting."

May I just say that I am going to go off and hug this idea quietly for a while? Because I love it?
The idea that JMS floated of the Alliance being seen as a threatening hegemony and the Rangers as jack-booted thugs/enforcers is one I would have loved to have seen worked out.

Re: Regarding Vir's choice to abet Londo -

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2009-08-23 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
*cough The Learning Curve really makes them look that way cough*
Edited 2009-08-23 18:25 (UTC)