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Ruuger ([personal profile] ruuger) wrote in [community profile] b5_revisited2009-09-21 10:46 am

"There All the Honor Lies" discussion

This is the discussion post for the episode 2X14, "There All the Honor Lies". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Sheridan gets into trouble when he kills a Minbari in self-defense.

Extra reading:
The article for "There All the Honor Lies" at Lurker's Guide.
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[identity profile] 4thofeleven.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I sort of feel the merchandising plot had more bite back before there was tons of B5 crap available for sale in real life… not to mention before a series of increasingly pathetic attempts to create spin-offs. Babylon 5 might be ‘about something’, but can the same be said for Legend of the Rangers? And from an in-universe point of view, shouldn’t independent merchants have long since filled the demand for B5 souvenirs?

On the plus side, it does have the ‘Cast- in a bad light’ line, so that’s alright.

Actual plot: It’s a bit thin at times – Sheridan seems a bit too involved in the investigation of his own actions, and Julie Brown’s character seems to disappear for most of the episode. Still, some interesting bits.

Interesting that Earth isn’t willing to exert any real influence to keep Sheridan in command; no doubt while the new regime doesn’t see Sheridan as an active threat, they’re still not above taking an opportunity to see him replaced with someone they know is totally loyal to them.

On Kosh – I’ve never actually minded “Grey 17 is Missing” that much, and that’s mainly because I like the idea that behind all the politics and battles and important people, the station’s also full of weird little secrets that 99% of the station population are completely oblivious to. So I liked the weird Kosh bit here too.

A random thought – Kosh seems to know his way around Down Below. Maybe he’s not that uncommon a sight down there, and that’s why Deuce back in “Grail” thought he could convince people the Vorlons were working with a small-time lurker gang...

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
What I want to know is how Kosh was able to find out about the Gregorian chant without getting out of his encounter suit. Vorlon telepathy? On that note, I hope he bothered to show this place to Lyta as well later; she could use some cheering up by perfect moments of beauty even more than Sheridan.

Re: Earth and Sheridan - I think what's his name from last episode who was after the doctor probably reported Sheridan was acting a bit fishy there. Plus you know, I wonder how much the generals were able to keep secret from Clark & Co. anyway given that Clark did have large parts of Psi Corps at his side.