"And the Sky Full of Stars" discussion [spoilers]

[ruuger]

This is the discussion post for the episode 1X08, "And the Sky Full of Stars". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Extra reading:

The article for "And the Sky Full of Stars" at Lurker's Guide.

Comments

[wychwood]

she does have that iron conviction she's a woman of destiny. She's definitely a woman of faith

True! And I think she'd have to be, to pull a stunt that stupid *g*. I think you have a good point with the Valen thing, too, that perhaps she thinks she can reach the Valen part of him even through his disorientation.

And I agree: it's particularly interesting in the light of the other revelations in the episode, Delenn getting more complex all the time...

[alexcat.livejournal.com]

Perhaps since she "knows" his destiny, she is sure all will come out well when she walks up to him.

[wychwood]

I don't think she does, though - I mean, my understanding is that the Minbari think that Sinclair is the reincarnation of Valen; they don't know he's actually "Valen in the flesh", as selenak put it. So she thinks she knows what he was and did in his last life, but not anything about his future.

[alexcat.livejournal.com]

Hmmm. I was always under the impression that by this time ten years after the war, they knew his identity and sent Delenn to guide him toward the actions that would make him Valen. But perhaps not.

[swashbuckler332.livejournal.com]

No, I don't think so... don't forget the Minbari in Delenn's quarters who recommends she kill him if he figures anything out. They know something was up with Babylon 4, but they until "War Without End" I don't think they ever put all of it together.

[alexcat.livejournal.com]

If not for the Minbari in her quarters, I'd argue with you *grin* but I agree. I don't think they'd kill Valen under any circumstances!

[swashbuckler332.livejournal.com]

Perhaps... but if he was reincarnated once, maybe he'll be reincarnated again. And possibly in a properly Minbari instead of one of those smelly ape things.

[alexcat.livejournal.com]

This is true! A real Minbari would be SO much better!

[kitoky.livejournal.com]

I was under the same impression, but perhaps Delenn and Sinclair hadn't known the specifics. Sinclair is related to Valen in some way, and Delenn knows that, and maybe they finally knew the truth when WWE rolled around and they both opened the chests.

[widsidh.livejournal.com]

I'm not so sure she does either, but for a different reason.

Was the Sinclair = Valen plotline in existence before Michael O'Hare left?

Otherwise, if JMS didn't know, neither would Delenn...