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Ruuger ([personal profile] ruuger) wrote in [community profile] b5_revisited2009-04-20 11:45 am

"Signs and Portents" discussion [spoilers]

Sorry for the delay - my internet connection was down last night.

This is the discussion post for the episode 1X13, "Signs and Portents". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Extra reading:

The article for "Signs and Portents" at Lurker's Guide.

[identity profile] vjs2259.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
This is the second showing of a bathroom, and there are more (I know, it's weird to remember this, but it is so unusual to see them.) Garibaldi and either commander seem to make a habit of meeting there! My husband pointed out a woman entering the bathroom after they left, and we had a lively discussion on whether the facilities are unisex on B5 afterwards. And the first time we saw a 'special' stall for the pak'mara...I don't think I want to know.

Agree on the couch; I still think the Shadow ships are full on scary. When Morden fades into darkness in Delenn's quarters...I think it was a great idea to rely on other's reactions rather than show much of anything about the Enemy. It builds it up nicely.

[identity profile] widsidh.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
whether the facilities are unisex on B5

I *think* I saw a gender symbol on the wall, couldn't swear to it though.
Which begs the question whether the categories "male" and "female" appliy to all aliens species...

They are definitely unisex in BSG (even in the absense of aforementioned potentially ambiguous aliens), which somehow prefer. No queues at the Ladies', for one thing ;-)

[identity profile] imhilien.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched S&P on the DVD with JMS's voiceover, and he sheepishly explained at the bathroom scene that the woman walking into it after Sinclair and Garibaldi left it was a mistake. So it seems that it wasn't a unisex bathroom. :-p

As for the alien bathrooms... I agree, there are some things We Aren't Meant to Know.

Morden becoming darker in Delenn's quarters was a good (and ominous) way of showing to the audience he's definitely not on the Light Side of the Force...

[identity profile] vjs2259.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"So it seems that it wasn't a unisex bathroom. :-p"

Oh man, that's terrible. I was planning a fic about bathroom encounters...
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[personal profile] beatrice_otter 2009-04-22 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
But that's secondary canon--that was never said on the show itself. So if it's in your way, I'd feel free to ignore it.