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Ruuger ([personal profile] ruuger) wrote in [community profile] b5_revisited2009-09-21 10:46 am

"There All the Honor Lies" discussion

This is the discussion post for the episode 2X14, "There All the Honor Lies". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Sheridan gets into trouble when he kills a Minbari in self-defense.

Extra reading:
The article for "There All the Honor Lies" at Lurker's Guide.

[identity profile] nolivingman.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I am killjoy and hate the teddy bear/shop plotline. It seemed to 4th wall breaking (with the stabs at Star Trek). I was glad when they stopped making so many references to other shows. Be who you are; stop worrying about everybody else.

I wish I understood what Kosh was doing with the music. It was a lovely scene, but Kosh's motives are so opaque and so focused on his goal that I wish I understood what this served.
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[identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I'm still not sure what it was we were meant to be seeing. Holograms?

I wish I understood what this served.

Agreed. In retrospect, a lot of Kosh's actions make sense, but not this one. Unless he just wanted to cheer Sheridan up. Vorlons aren't the hugging type.

[identity profile] nolivingman.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it was a projection from Kosh's brain, maybe? That was my guess.

Unless he just wanted to cheer Sheridan up.

I feel like I keep harping on this poor episode with this same charge, but it has the ring to me of "generic cryptic character does something cryptic" where Kosh is the Magical Vorlon.
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[identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it was a projection from Kosh's brain, maybe? That was my guess.

For which he demands payment in the form of uniform doodads?

...it has the ring to me of "generic cryptic character does something cryptic" where Kosh is the Magical Vorlon.

Yes, that puts it nicely.

[identity profile] nolivingman.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
For which he demands payment in the form of uniform doodads?

He gave up his rank! I am willing to give the episode credit for cool foreshadowing on that bit.
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[identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I TOTALLY DIDN'T SPOT THAT! *claps*