"War without End" discussion

[ruuger]

This is the discussion post for the episodes 3X16 and 3x17 "War Without End, Parts 1 & 2". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Sinclair, Delenn and Sheridan travel back in time to rescue Babylon 4.

Extra reading:
The article for "War Without End", Part 1 and Part 2 at Lurker's Guide.

Comments

[vjs2259.livejournal.com]

The whole 'what if we didn't take B4 back in time and so the Shadows have lots-o ships left' scenario as mentioned by 4thofeleven above. It really would have many more ramifications than Delenn goes into here. For one thing, as already mentioned, Earth and Minbar might have given up on building B5 if B4 blew up, or Minbar might have gone it alone and built a different B5 (ooh, I like that one!), or maybe they would have found film of the Shadow crabs leaving the fusion bomb in the wreckage (ala Keffer) and discovered the Shadows earlier...I can go on, but it's time for work. :)
I do love AUs!

[ufgator1977.livejournal.com]

You know, as soon as I sent that reply, it dawned on me what you meant. I'm so dense sometimes. :p

[vjs2259.livejournal.com]

Not so dense, the interlaced comments get confusing and I should have cited 4thofeleven. Besides, the morning flight of fancy was fun. :)

Think of the political possibilities! A Minbari-centric B5, maybe with most of the Council? Or only some...the Narn and Centauri on different sides. The League stays allied with Earth. Bester breaks away from PsiCorps when the Shadows want to use his teeps in ships, and joins the Minbari with a rogue group. A replay of the Earth-Minbari War with the Shadows backing Earth and the Vorlons backing Minbar. See? Fun!

[ufgator1977.livejournal.com]

Perfect! Now all you have to do is shoehorn Sinclair and Sheridan in there somewhere.

[vjs2259.livejournal.com]

Sinclair is co-opted by the Minbari (OK I have no idea how) and Sheridan fights for Earth. *cue ominous drum-roll*

[ufgator1977.livejournal.com]

Well Sinclair is easy,just stick to canon...captured,makes the triluminary glow,Minbari sue for peace.

The shadows refuse of course which pisses off Starkiller because he wants to go home to Anna who of course is under shadow control,but I digress.

John-boy always did like secrets and when he figures it all out...can you say rebels?

And we are waaaaay off topic so maybe we should stop.

EDITED: Because I meant to say I'll PM you. Geeze!

[4thofeleven.livejournal.com]

I'd kind of like to see an AU where the losses suffered in the last Shadow War force the Minbari to flee into Vorlon space, where they gradually fade into myth, while the victorious Shadows encourage the Drakh to settle in the abandoned Minbari systems, and they spend the next thousand years operating openly, recognised by the other races as one of the major powers...