...answering Morden isn't what I see as Londo's first step towards damning himself; that comes later in season 2 when he asks Morden for help for the second time...
I have to say I disagree on this. Given the circumstances and what he knew he must have believed implicitly that war with the Narn was coming. At that point it would seem a choice between starting it now, or waiting until the Narn had an even larger fleet and were an even greater threat. (Unless you mean the second time in season 2, when he basically supports the wholesale destruction of the Narn homeworld, which is the point at which I consider him to cross the line)
I think at this point the 'they are not for you' is an attempt to get the Shadows away from the B5 project as a whole. The idea of working out differences peacefully is very much part of the Vorlon argument (as contrasting with Vorlon practice as seen in season 4), and as such he's trying to prevent the Shadows from corrupting it. In fact, it's this scene, more than any of the others, that makes you take Morden seriously. So far the Vorlon has been untouchable, but here you have a guy who obviously relishes the confrontation and then you hear he damages Kosh's encounter suit.
"they are a dead people" (re: the Centauri and the Narn)
Finally, some one who gets this the same way I do. Everyone always uses that quote specifically for the Centauri. I always thought the point of that quote was that from the Vorlon perspective both races were doomed, with little difference between them (thus hinting at the war to come being based on ideology, not species).
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Date: 2009-04-21 10:07 am (UTC)I have to say I disagree on this. Given the circumstances and what he knew he must have believed implicitly that war with the Narn was coming. At that point it would seem a choice between starting it now, or waiting until the Narn had an even larger fleet and were an even greater threat. (Unless you mean the second time in season 2, when he basically supports the wholesale destruction of the Narn homeworld, which is the point at which I consider him to cross the line)
I think at this point the 'they are not for you' is an attempt to get the Shadows away from the B5 project as a whole. The idea of working out differences peacefully is very much part of the Vorlon argument (as contrasting with Vorlon practice as seen in season 4), and as such he's trying to prevent the Shadows from corrupting it. In fact, it's this scene, more than any of the others, that makes you take Morden seriously. So far the Vorlon has been untouchable, but here you have a guy who obviously relishes the confrontation and then you hear he damages Kosh's encounter suit.
"they are a dead people" (re: the Centauri and the Narn)
Finally, some one who gets this the same way I do. Everyone always uses that quote specifically for the Centauri. I always thought the point of that quote was that from the Vorlon perspective both races were doomed, with little difference between them (thus hinting at the war to come being based on ideology, not species).