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Rewatch for Season 3, Episode 12 – Sic Transit Vir

And here are the recaps:
Dramwidth
Livejournal

And the analysis and Comments from JMS at The Lurker’s Guide to Babylon 5

And a funny Londo scene to remind us that we still love him.


Ivanova and the naked dream… doesn’t everyone have this one?
Nightmare time!
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John, Delenn and the almost kiss – a lot like reading fanfiction, eh?

And Vir and his blushing (and racist) bride.
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Unfortunately, this episode is all too chilling. Lyndisty is way too much like too many people I’ve met here where I live. Pretty little things with the most vile stuff coming out of their mouths. She is an unapologetic monster and she doesn’t even know it. We have way too many people like that today on earth. *hops off soapbox*

Abrahamo Lincolni is a cool idea… Vir is a good guy and so cute.

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1. So have you had the naked at work/school/in public dream?
2. The analysis did bring up an interesting question – Ivanova mentions tweaking the Abrahamo Lincolni bio and that the Centauri would never notice it in their data base. How did she get into their data base?
3. And Vir says ‘we’. Who could the others in ‘we’ be?
4. Have you ever seen such a mess as John made?
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Post them if you have them.

NOw that's a bug!
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The sweet face of horror
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Nightmare time!
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Recap and Discussion for 3 x 12 – Sic Transit Vir

We begin the episode with Ivanova standing naked in the C&C then waking up screaming.

We see Vir on Centauri Prime – a minister of some sort tells him that the Emperor likes his reports from Minbar but they do sound a lot like Londo wrote them. Vir tells he helped. Then the minister tells Vir a joke: What is more dangerous than a room full of angry Narns? One angry Narn with a key. Vir laughs nervously and goes back to his room, which is full of angry looking Narns.

Susan tells John she’s been having nightmares. He tells her she must have something unsettled in her mind.

Londo is trying to kill a bug when finally a young woman comes in.

John and Delenn meet and he asks her for a date – rather awkwardly.

Vir arrives back on B5.

Vir goes to Londo’s quarters where he is introduced to Lyndisty, who is to be his wife.

Londo has another bug.

Zack tells Ivanova that someone from Centauri named Abrahamo Lincolni has been sending Narn offworld with false papers. They gape at one another when they see who has done this.

Vir is nervously getting to know Lyndisty.

Vir tries to explain to Ivanova why he is sending Narn to camps – they are safer than where they are and safer as well. He is running a sort of underground railroad.

John had made flarn for Delenn and judging by her expression, it’s awful but she’s saved by the bell when an attack is reported and John goes running.

A Narn has attacked Vir and Lyndisty, but is thwarted by Sheridan and the security team led by Zack. They end up shooting the Narn. Before he is killed the Narn says it is a Blood oath.

Ivanova reports the blood oath bit to Sheridan and they are all puzzled at why anyone would want to kill Vir, most of all Vir. Lyndisty fixed his injury. Ivanova tells him that the Narn had a pouch brother who will try to finish the blood oath.

Vir asks for romance advice from Susan who finally tells him to behave with enthusiasm, sincerity, compassion and humor.

Delenn is helping John with his buttons since he was injured in the scuffle with the narn who attacked Vir and Lyndisty. John almost kisses Delenn when Ivanova interrupts and calls him to Londo’s quarters. Susan calls Vir out about the camps in front of Londo, telling Sheridan about them all being dead. Londo is appalled as only Londo can be after he finds out that the Narn were sent away rather than killed.

Lyndisty helps Vir, tending his wounds. Lyndisty tells Vir what she really thinks of the Narn, that they are lesser and not even people. She has the other Narn tied up for Vir to kill. She says she has killed many with her father, helping to burn villages and to put Narn to sleep, as he culled the herds of Narn. Vir is appalled at her.

We cut away to Londo yelling at Vir about going native on Minbar and about how Lydisty is going home and postponing their wedding.

Susan shows John how she made an identity for Abrahamo Lincolni so they could continue to use it if need be.

Virt says goodbye to Lynduisty. She says she’ll wait for him.

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Quotes:
"If kisses could kill, that one would have flattened several small towns."
– Vir Cotto
“Humans can be a very depressing people. “
- Delenn
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Questions:
1. What did you think of the bug in Londo’s room? Did you hear the sound it made?
2. So was Vir inspecting the throne because of Lady Mirella’s prediction that he’d be emperor someday?
3. Do you think G’kar knows anything about what Vir is doing?
4. Lyndisty gave me the creeps… as a young child in the south, I heard older people talk about African Americans that way… not about killing them but that they were somehow lesser than white people were. It was not unusual to hear things like coming from lovely mouths. Comments?
5. The first you saw it, were you yelling ‘Kiss her!’ to John? Do you like silly, giddy John in love?
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Sources:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic_Transit_Vir
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517689/trivia?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu
The Lurkers’ Guide to Babylon 5: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/guide/056.html
Project Babylon: http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Sic_Transit_Vir
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Here you can post your fanworks about "Sic Transit Vir" - icons, fanart, fanfic, vids - or recommend fanworks made by others. You can also suggest fic-prompts.

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This is the discussion post for the episode 3X12, "Sic Transit Vir". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Londo arranges a marriage for Vir.

Extra reading:
The article for "Sic Transit Vir" at Lurker's Guide.

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