Rewatch for Season 2, Episode 14 - There All the Honor Lies

[alexcat]

Rewatch for Season 2, episode 14 – There All the Honor Lies

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The Lurker’s Guide to Babylon 5 always has some interesting tidbits and some stuff from JMS.

The craziness in this episode overshadows the serious issue and I don’t really have a problem with that. To be honest, I found the frameup of Sheridan to be dull compared to merch on the station, Londo dolls and the singing monks in one moment of ‘perfect beauty’. Did I mention that the Centauri want to recall Vir because he’d too dull to be the cool Londo’s assistant?


Oh and Na’toth is Sheridan’s lawyer!


There are a bunch of radicalized Minbari and one of them martyrs himself to frame Sheridan, who simply won’t go down without a fight and he wins, as usual. The Minbari are strange and mysterious, but they don’t lie… except to save face, which Londo tells to Sheridan. This gets him out of his trouble and all is sort of well at the end.

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1. Who exactly sent Sheridan’s lawyer? The real details are a bit vague.
2. Do you think the chanting monks were Pak’ma’ra?
3. So are there different castes in a family? Or group? Were the dudes from Lennier’s clan all of the same caste?
4. Wouldn’t you love a Sheridan bear? OR an anatomically correct Londo?

Comments

[kanadka]

I've always thought same clan, same caste, as if you have different caste members in the same clan, wouldn't you have some affinity for them? And stemming from that affinity, you'd realise other castes aren't so different, really, so how could a civil conflict that comes out of inter-caste politics start so immediately and be so widespread after Delenn's actions in S3 in the Grey Council? Unless there's already heaping precedent that castes don't talk to one another. So it seems to me that clans as sets are fully contained within the caste. I always thought the 'warrior' who was the same clan as Lennier's buddy stole the uniform. (Though the warrior who had their uniform stolen might also suffer some kind of loss of honour.)

But! I can see an argument for the converse, as well - if one clan has only one caste in it, how do you split duties and roles? Lennier's Religious-Caste-Only clan seems like it'd defend itself well, but do they really call up a neighbouring Worker Caste clan when they need a building built?

On an unrelated note, I love that 'moment of perfect beauty' scene so much. I'd never thought of the monks being pak'ma'ra before, but I love that too.

[shipperslist]

The gift shop story is hilarious (I wouldn't mind an anatomically correct Londo). As are Kosh and Sheridan's lessons.
And Vir and Londo, oh man.

The Sheridan conspiracy was a bit meh (even though Na'Toth as a lawyer was delightful) but extra info on the Minbari culture is always a boon.

[alexcat]

I want one of those infernal Sheridan bears!