"Signs and Portents" discussion [spoilers]

[ruuger]

Sorry for the delay - my internet connection was down last night.

This is the discussion post for the episode 1X13, "Signs and Portents". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Extra reading:

The article for "Signs and Portents" at Lurker's Guide.

Comments

[zefire2.livejournal.com]

Another problem is the thread of Babylon 5’s prophesied destruction, one of the few plot points that was very clearly a victim of the eventual changes in the storyline – the resolution in “War Without End” never felt particular satisfying, and has massive plot holes. Most of the time, the show does a pretty good job of clearing up abandoned plot threads in a satisfying fashion, but this one really sticks out on re-watching.

I've always thought the opposite really. We see what is essentially one of the very last scenes in the show early on, but it isn't exactly what we think it is.
I read the bit about the original ending, but the way it played out really fits togeather far better then what was billed to the network; I wonder how much was just sales pitch & spin off opportunities to get the show going.

[4thofeleven.livejournal.com]

Well, "Babylon Squared" also alludes to Babylon 5 being destroyed in the future (Sinclair's flash-forward to Garibaldi making a last stand) - I think there was a clear intention during the first season that B5 would be destroyed in combat during the run of the show.

And, of course, "War Without End" goes out of its way to explain those references, something I don't think would have happened if Ladira's vision had always been intended to refer to "Sleeping In Light".