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b5_revisitedI am soooo sorry! Monday got away from me and I didn't even remember until this morning! Anyhow, here is Season 2, episode 11 for you perusal~!
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Recap and Discussion for 2 x 11 – All Alone in the Night
To me, this is one of the weirdest episodes. I still don’t entirely understand the purpose of the throw away abduction.
Here goes:
There have been attacks on ships recently and Sheridan decides HE will take a squadron out to check it out.
Delenn had been summoned by the Grey Council and Lennier says he will go with her though she tells him he might be better off distancing himself from her.
Both leave B5.
Ivanova tells Sheridan that General Hague will be there soon then chastises him for not telling her one of the Joint Chiefs is coming to B5. Sheridan says it’s a friendly meeting but is a bit vague about it. He says he’ll be back before General Hague arrives.
Delenn and Lennier arrive at the Grey Council and board the ship.
Sheridan and his group are attacked and Sheridan is taken prisoner while Ramirez, a pilot who gets to be the Red Shirt, is radiated so badly that he will die. He decides he must make it back to B5 to save Sheridan.
General Hague arrives and thinks it odd that John is not there.
Sheridan awakens on a table with instruments coming toward him.
Hedronn tells Delenn she is no longer a member of the Grey Council and when she asks about being ambassador, he says he doesn’t know. He offers for her to address the council and she accepts.
Ramirez arrives at B5.
Sheridan awakes and is attacked by a Drazi who is then killed by a Narn. Both have some Sort of control device on them. Sheridan fights the **Narn and knocks him out.
Ramirez dies.
Delenn asks the Grey Council to let her stay on Babylon 5. She is introduced to the new member of the council, Neroon, a warrior. This upsets the 3/3/3 balance and gives the warrior caste control of the Grey Council. Neroon says she is no longer Minbari and belongs on B5.
The Narn wakes and says he thinks they were taken prisoner ahead of an invasion by these people.
Delenn tells Lennier she is staying as ambassador to B5.
Sheridan has the dream - Ivanova in uniform asking "Do you know who I am?"; Garibaldi telling him "The Man in between is searching for you"; and Ivanova in a veil with dark lipstick telling him, "You are the hand"; and even the image of Sheridan himself wearing a Psi Cop uniform. Then he sees Kosh, who tells him that "this is the first time your mind has been quiet enough to hear me." Sheridan asks, "Why am I here?" and Kosh replies, "You have always been here."\
It supposedly has lots of deep meaning but we’ll get to that in questions.
Sheridan wakes and notices that the wall had some open space at the bottom and he starts prying it up with the sword he was using a few minutes before.
Delenn, on route to B5, is told about Sheridan and she tells ivaonva who the Streib are and that the Minbari taught them a lesson once when they tried attack them. She gives Ivanova the coordinates to their homeworld.
While Sheridan tries to open up the wall, they feel a hit from something –
It is the from the Agamemnon, come to rescue him. He and the Narn escape to a pod.
The Streib space all their captives but Ivanova picks up life signs in a pod.
After treatment by Franklin in MedLab, Kosh tells Sheridan, “You have always been here.”
Hague comes to talk to Sheridan in his quarters. He sets out a jamming device and John tells him he was wondering when someone would come to debrief him. He says his officers are loyal to Earth. They talk of the coup that killed Santiago and how maybe Psi Corps is responsible for it. Hague tells Sheridan he thinks Clarke does not doubt his loyalty and that will give him some room to poke around.
Later Sheridan asks Garibaldi, Franklin and Ivanova to help him discover what is going on. They agree.
**The Narn is not identified but we meet him in Season 3 as Ta’Lon.
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Quotes:
"Summoned, I take the place that has been prepared for me. I am Grey. I stand between the candle and the star. We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light."
-- Delenn
"Come what may, Delenn, I will not leave you while I am still alive."
-- Lennier to Delenn
*
Questions:
1. So what do you make of the dream?
2. Did you feel sorry for Ramirez as soon as we met him, knowing he’d be a redshirt?
3. Did you feel the abduction plot made any sense? Just a plot device to give us the dream?
4. Are we to understand that the Joint Chiefs are against Clarke?
5. What do you think of what Hague revealed about Sheridan?
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Sources:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Alone_in_the_Night
The Babyulon Project; http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/All_Alone_in_the_Night
The Lurker’s Guide: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/033.html
The Lurker’s Guide Quotes: http://koti.kapsi.fi/a1bert/Quotes/NoRobots/B5/033.html
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Recap and Discussion for 2 x 11 – All Alone in the Night
To me, this is one of the weirdest episodes. I still don’t entirely understand the purpose of the throw away abduction.
Here goes:
There have been attacks on ships recently and Sheridan decides HE will take a squadron out to check it out.
Delenn had been summoned by the Grey Council and Lennier says he will go with her though she tells him he might be better off distancing himself from her.
Both leave B5.
Ivanova tells Sheridan that General Hague will be there soon then chastises him for not telling her one of the Joint Chiefs is coming to B5. Sheridan says it’s a friendly meeting but is a bit vague about it. He says he’ll be back before General Hague arrives.
Delenn and Lennier arrive at the Grey Council and board the ship.
Sheridan and his group are attacked and Sheridan is taken prisoner while Ramirez, a pilot who gets to be the Red Shirt, is radiated so badly that he will die. He decides he must make it back to B5 to save Sheridan.
General Hague arrives and thinks it odd that John is not there.
Sheridan awakens on a table with instruments coming toward him.
Hedronn tells Delenn she is no longer a member of the Grey Council and when she asks about being ambassador, he says he doesn’t know. He offers for her to address the council and she accepts.
Ramirez arrives at B5.
Sheridan awakes and is attacked by a Drazi who is then killed by a Narn. Both have some Sort of control device on them. Sheridan fights the **Narn and knocks him out.
Ramirez dies.
Delenn asks the Grey Council to let her stay on Babylon 5. She is introduced to the new member of the council, Neroon, a warrior. This upsets the 3/3/3 balance and gives the warrior caste control of the Grey Council. Neroon says she is no longer Minbari and belongs on B5.
The Narn wakes and says he thinks they were taken prisoner ahead of an invasion by these people.
Delenn tells Lennier she is staying as ambassador to B5.
Sheridan has the dream - Ivanova in uniform asking "Do you know who I am?"; Garibaldi telling him "The Man in between is searching for you"; and Ivanova in a veil with dark lipstick telling him, "You are the hand"; and even the image of Sheridan himself wearing a Psi Cop uniform. Then he sees Kosh, who tells him that "this is the first time your mind has been quiet enough to hear me." Sheridan asks, "Why am I here?" and Kosh replies, "You have always been here."\
It supposedly has lots of deep meaning but we’ll get to that in questions.
Sheridan wakes and notices that the wall had some open space at the bottom and he starts prying it up with the sword he was using a few minutes before.
Delenn, on route to B5, is told about Sheridan and she tells ivaonva who the Streib are and that the Minbari taught them a lesson once when they tried attack them. She gives Ivanova the coordinates to their homeworld.
While Sheridan tries to open up the wall, they feel a hit from something –
It is the from the Agamemnon, come to rescue him. He and the Narn escape to a pod.
The Streib space all their captives but Ivanova picks up life signs in a pod.
After treatment by Franklin in MedLab, Kosh tells Sheridan, “You have always been here.”
Hague comes to talk to Sheridan in his quarters. He sets out a jamming device and John tells him he was wondering when someone would come to debrief him. He says his officers are loyal to Earth. They talk of the coup that killed Santiago and how maybe Psi Corps is responsible for it. Hague tells Sheridan he thinks Clarke does not doubt his loyalty and that will give him some room to poke around.
Later Sheridan asks Garibaldi, Franklin and Ivanova to help him discover what is going on. They agree.
**The Narn is not identified but we meet him in Season 3 as Ta’Lon.
*
Quotes:
"Summoned, I take the place that has been prepared for me. I am Grey. I stand between the candle and the star. We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light."
-- Delenn
"Come what may, Delenn, I will not leave you while I am still alive."
-- Lennier to Delenn
*
Questions:
1. So what do you make of the dream?
2. Did you feel sorry for Ramirez as soon as we met him, knowing he’d be a redshirt?
3. Did you feel the abduction plot made any sense? Just a plot device to give us the dream?
4. Are we to understand that the Joint Chiefs are against Clarke?
5. What do you think of what Hague revealed about Sheridan?
*
Sources:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Alone_in_the_Night
The Babyulon Project; http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/All_Alone_in_the_Night
The Lurker’s Guide: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/033.html
The Lurker’s Guide Quotes: http://koti.kapsi.fi/a1bert/Quotes/NoRobots/B5/033.html
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Date: 2016-08-13 02:30 pm (UTC)This is one of those reverberating titles...I am wracking my brain trying to remember the episode where Sheridan tells Delenn about his time lost in a flyer, where he is All Alone in the Night?
This episode is a major turning point for Delenn and a pivotal moment for Lennier. Alea iacta est. The die is cast. He, they, have staked their position and turned their back on authority, which, for a Minbari, is huge.
The Grey Council has laid out their position; against prophecy, against Valen, against Delenn. They are so going to be on the wrong side of history. Neroon, baby, you are making such an error.
General Hague also has staked a position. Sheridan too, when asked by Hague. The B5 command staff, when asked by Sheridan.
Each is making the decision, feeling alone, yet finding support when they ask.
I like this episode!
The dream seemed like JMS stoking the fire more than a true prophecy. He throws these things in to give us something to debate. I did wonder, this time, at Kosh's use of the word 'man' for the Man In Between. Maybe that turns it away from Lorien. Did the Vorlons know Lorien was on Z'ha'dum? I can't remember. So I have seen theories that the Man is: Lorien, Justin, the interrogator, Bester, Kosh himself, Sinclair...I'm probably forgetting some!
Why is Sheridan is a PsiCop outfit? The veil seems to indicate prophecy (the Centauri telepaths, I think Lady Morella, Delenn in Londo's dream, Susan here). And what about the dove???
I'll stop now. I have more episodes to watch.