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This is the discussion post for the episode 4X12, "Conflicts of Interest". Spoilers for the whole of the series, including the spin-offs and tie-ins, are allowed here so newbies beware.

Summary:
Garibaldi gets a new job working for William Edgars. The resistance begins their counter-propaganda broadcasts.

Extra reading:
The article for "Conflicts of Interest" at The Lurker's Guide.

Date: 2010-07-19 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voxwoman.livejournal.com
Lise (and Garibaldi's relationship with her) is one of the weakest-written bits in the entire series. She's too whiny, and I'm sorry, but a normal, well-adjusted woman does not marry someone 2 or 3 times her age unless it's for money. (if it's for other reasons, she's not "well adjusted" - she's got a father complex). I find her more annoying than Byron and his entire arc.

Additionally, why didn't she use Edgars' power/money to get custody of her child with Franz? That would be the NUMBER ONE thing a parent would do. I chalk that up to JMS not being a parent on his own, but it says volumes about Lise's character and none of it is good.

(I just "caught up" in my watching the series - acutally, I'm ahead now! So I can finally participate)

Date: 2010-07-19 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vjs2259.livejournal.com
"Additionally, why didn't she use Edgars' power/money to get custody of her child with Franz? That would be the NUMBER ONE thing a parent would do."

I've written the story of Lise's daughter twice because this bothers me so much. That includes the aforementioned femgen story coming up. Not a great story, but Lise's lack of gumption needs explanation.
I liked my first explanation better but you'd have to read the whole damn Telepath War to get to the punch at the end which explains what happened to Deborah.

Lise was married to Edgars less than a year btw. And Edgars did not strike me as the type to suffer prior children, or any distraction from his own needs, lightly.

Date: 2010-07-19 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voxwoman.livejournal.com
well, you have a point about that (which makes my first premise, that she "married for money" all the stronger, despite her protests). I always wondered if the daughter in Sleeping In Light was Franz's kid and not Michael's.

Date: 2010-07-19 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vjs2259.livejournal.com
Mary Garibaldi's only 16 (younger than David Sheridan.)

I always figured Lise married for security. That's why she couldn't stay with Garibaldi; he was too unstable.

Date: 2010-07-19 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voxwoman.livejournal.com
married 3 times in as many years? Not exactly "stable" LOL!

Date: 2010-07-19 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vjs2259.livejournal.com
I didn't say Lise was stable, I said she craved security (which you know, unstable people might well do). You guys are a little rough on Lise...she was left by Garibaldi, divorced her 1st husband due to his adultery, and her 2nd husband was murdered. A little soap opera-ish, but doesn't exactly indicate she's into casual serial relationships!

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